[FX.php List] [OFF] Mac Hardware for FMS?

[Anders Monsen]

Not all Xserves are noisy.

We have a G5 Xserve that dominates the server room, and an Intel  
Xserve that purrs along very quietly.

--
Anders

On Sep 2, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Bob Patin wrote:

> While I agree with Dale about Xserves (I have 10 of them), I also  
> like Mac Pros. I'm not sure which put off more heat, but I can tell  
> you that they both put off a LOT of heat, but Mac Pros are almost  
> silent, while Xserves are REALLY noisy.
>
> I have 2 Mac Pros sitting less than a foot away--one is my work  
> machine, the other is my digital audio machine--they're virtually  
> silent except when a CD or DVD is being burned. On the other hand,  
> in my server closet where the Xserves are, behind glass doors,  
> inside a rack with its own glass doors, I can hear the Xserves  
> whining from 10 feet away. :)
>
> But the fact that you can pull a drive out and swap it in 2 seconds  
> is mucho cool; that's helped me countless times.
>
> BP
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> On Sep 2, 2009, at 2:15 PM, Dale Bengston wrote:
>
>> Joel,
>>
>> If you need Mac hardware for a server, why not buy Mac server  
>> hardware? I would look at XServe instead of Mac Pro. You will not  
>> regret it.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>>
>> On Sep 2, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Joel Shapiro wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> Hardware's not my strong suit...
>>>
>>> I've got a new client that's contracted me to switch them from  
>>> Lasso to PHP.  Their current hadware/network setup (FMS + other  
>>> duties on 1 machine, Lasso/WebServer on another) is unstable and  
>>> their IT consultant is recommending they buy a new machine instead  
>>> of trying to clean up all the problems they're having now.
>>>
>>> I've recommended they switch to a one-machine FMS config and move  
>>> everything else to the other server.  The IT guy is suggesting  
>>> they get a new Mac Pro for the FMS machine for $3700, but that  
>>> seems excessive to me.  (Is it?)
>>>
>>> (The IT guy regularly "likes to have a second hard drive in there  
>>> mirroring the primary one, to lessen the downtime potential".  I  
>>> already got him to exclude the live DBs from his nightly  
>>> SuperDuper clone backups, but it seems to me that for an FMS-only  
>>> machine, it's really only necessary to regularly backup the DBs  
>>> and maybe the logs, and everything else on the machine can be  
>>> "cloned" just whenever the OS or website is updated... since  
>>> everything except the DBs should remain constant... right?)
>>>
>>> I'd appreciate any thoughts or recommendations.  Can you think of  
>>> other Macs that would be fully sufficient but not as expensive?
>>>
>>> TIA,
>>> -Joel
>>>
>>> ## CLIENT:
>>> - Nonprofit agency w/ 12 FMP users, although rarely if ever all at  
>>> the same time.  A couple users work in the DB all day long.
>>> - Their FM/PHP website is used 24 hrs/day for class registrations  
>>> and "store" purchases.  They receive up to 40 orders per day  
>>> through the site.
>>> - DB was migrated to FM9 by their previous FM consultant, and  
>>> contains 25 .fp7 files.
>>>
>>> ## CURRENT FMS MACHINE*:
>>> Power Mac G5
>>> Dual 2 GHz
>>> 3 GB DDR SDRAM
>>> OS X Server 10.4.11
>>> *This machine is also used as a file server and had been used as a  
>>> Now Up-to-Date server
>>> Lasso/Web Server is on an even older machine (I can't get specs  
>>> right now)
>>>
>>> ## RECOMMENDED FMS WPE MACHINE:
>>> Mac Pro $3,699.00:
>>> Two 2.26GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
>>> 6GB (6x1GB)
>>> 1TB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
>>> 1TB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
>>> NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 512MB
>>> One 18x SuperDrive
>>> OS X Server 10.6.x*
>>> * Snow Leopard would require them to get FMS10; they have FMS9 now.
>>>
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