[FX.php List] [OFF] Mac Hardware for FMS?

[Bob Patin]

While I agree with Dale about Xserves (I have 10 of them), I also like  
Mac Pros. I'm not sure which put off more heat, but I can tell you  
that they both put off a LOT of heat, but Mac Pros are almost silent,  
while Xserves are REALLY noisy.

I have 2 Mac Pros sitting less than a foot away--one is my work  
machine, the other is my digital audio machine--they're virtually  
silent except when a CD or DVD is being burned. On the other hand, in  
my server closet where the Xserves are, behind glass doors, inside a  
rack with its own glass doors, I can hear the Xserves whining from 10  
feet away. :)

But the fact that you can pull a drive out and swap it in 2 seconds is  
mucho cool; that's helped me countless times.

BP




Bob Patin


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On Sep 2, 2009, at 2:15 PM, Dale Bengston wrote:

> Joel,
>
> If you need Mac hardware for a server, why not buy Mac server  
> hardware? I would look at XServe instead of Mac Pro. You will not  
> regret it.
>
> Dale
>
>
> On Sep 2, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Joel Shapiro wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Hardware's not my strong suit...
>>
>> I've got a new client that's contracted me to switch them from  
>> Lasso to PHP.  Their current hadware/network setup (FMS + other  
>> duties on 1 machine, Lasso/WebServer on another) is unstable and  
>> their IT consultant is recommending they buy a new machine instead  
>> of trying to clean up all the problems they're having now.
>>
>> I've recommended they switch to a one-machine FMS config and move  
>> everything else to the other server.  The IT guy is suggesting they  
>> get a new Mac Pro for the FMS machine for $3700, but that seems  
>> excessive to me.  (Is it?)
>>
>> (The IT guy regularly "likes to have a second hard drive in there  
>> mirroring the primary one, to lessen the downtime potential".  I  
>> already got him to exclude the live DBs from his nightly SuperDuper  
>> clone backups, but it seems to me that for an FMS-only machine,  
>> it's really only necessary to regularly backup the DBs and maybe  
>> the logs, and everything else on the machine can be "cloned" just  
>> whenever the OS or website is updated... since everything except  
>> the DBs should remain constant... right?)
>>
>> I'd appreciate any thoughts or recommendations.  Can you think of  
>> other Macs that would be fully sufficient but not as expensive?
>>
>> TIA,
>> -Joel
>>
>> ## CLIENT:
>> - Nonprofit agency w/ 12 FMP users, although rarely if ever all at  
>> the same time.  A couple users work in the DB all day long.
>> - Their FM/PHP website is used 24 hrs/day for class registrations  
>> and "store" purchases.  They receive up to 40 orders per day  
>> through the site.
>> - DB was migrated to FM9 by their previous FM consultant, and  
>> contains 25 .fp7 files.
>>
>> ## CURRENT FMS MACHINE*:
>> Power Mac G5
>> Dual 2 GHz
>> 3 GB DDR SDRAM
>> OS X Server 10.4.11
>> *This machine is also used as a file server and had been used as a  
>> Now Up-to-Date server
>> Lasso/Web Server is on an even older machine (I can't get specs  
>> right now)
>>
>> ## RECOMMENDED FMS WPE MACHINE:
>> Mac Pro $3,699.00:
>> Two 2.26GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
>> 6GB (6x1GB)
>> 1TB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
>> 1TB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
>> NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 512MB
>> One 18x SuperDrive
>> OS X Server 10.6.x*
>> * Snow Leopard would require them to get FMS10; they have FMS9 now.
>>
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