[FX.php List] Tired of making special solutions for every browser?

Bob Patin bob at patin.com
Thu May 7 11:34:56 MDT 2009


I know this question wasn't aimed at me, but I'll throw in my 2 cents  
anyway, as I'm inclined to do sometimes... :)

 From what I hear when talking to clients, lots of offices still run  
XP, with IT departments that don't update "unnecessary" components  
like browsers (not my opinion, but one that I hear from my clients in  
the field).

In large corporations where employees are strictly constrained from  
updating their own computers, they use what they're given...

As to home users: I can't count the number of users I encounter who  
are lucky to be able to use a browser at all, much less navigate an  
updater and install the latest attempt at bandaging what is clearly a  
lousy web browser. My ex-wife, for example, has still not learned how  
to do things as simple as online software updates; she uses Windows  
(against my advice, but I'm her ex now so what can I say...) and I'm  
certain she wouldn't know how to update IE, nor would she know why she  
*should* update it.

Then there are those clients that STILL have AOL email accounts...  
speaks for itself. I realize people are hesitant to change email  
addresses, but come on, AOL? That's so... 1990.

Also, there are a lot of really old PCs out in the world, still  
churning through websites; tons of people using their original install  
of XP, probably many without any security patches, many still without  
virus protection. My ex-in-laws would be a perfect example; they don't  
know squat about their computer other than to stare at it and wait for  
it to *do* something.

One last thought, semi-related: no matter *what* I put on a web app's  
forms, users will still try to use the BACK button. I can put it in 36- 
point RED and they'll still use the BACK button. Some of my clients  
seem to think that if you make the warning large enough, it might  
work... my experiences tell me otherwise!

Bob Patin

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On May 7, 2009, at 12:21 PM, Joel Shapiro wrote:

> On May 7, 2009, at 7:25 AM, Tim 'Webko' Booth wrote:
>> but IE6 (still 20%+ of my users)
> Webko:
> Do you know why that many people are still on IE6?  What OS are they  
> on?
> (I prefer to pretend that the whole world is now beyond IE6 so I  
> don't have to deal w/ it ;-)
> And FWIW: on one or two sites that I've done, instead of 'regular'  
> IE hacks, I've set the !DOCTYPE dynamically via PHP by checking the  
> user's browser version.  Probably not the best way to go, but it's  
> been a handy and quick workaround for me.
> -Joel
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