[FX.php List] [...barely off-topic] Upgrading webserver from PHP 4to 5

Dale Bengston dbengston at preservationstudio.com
Wed Feb 6 20:28:36 MST 2008 

Hi Bob,

Nope, that's still the PHP4 module showing in the OS X Server Admin  
tool. The Entropy installer puts its own config lines in httpd.conf to  
get Apache to load it. PHP5 is not known to the Server Admin tool.

If you wanted to disable PHP5 and go back to PHP4, you'd need to  
manually comment the reference to PHP5 in httpd.conf and then turn  
PHP4 back on with Server Admin.

Dale


On Feb 6, 2008, at 9:13 PM, Bob Patin wrote:

> Dale,
>
> Quick question, now that I installed PHP 5:
>
> I turned off PHP 4 in Server Admin (OS X Server Tiger), installed,  
> and then went back into Server Admin. I see the PHP 4 module; is it  
> now in reality the PHP 5 module??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob
>
>
> On Feb 6, 2008, at 3:26 PM, Dale Bengston wrote:
>
>> Bob,
>>
>> I have installed the Entropy version on 10.4.11 as well, both OS X  
>> and OS X Server. Just remember, if it's OS X Server, turn off the  
>> PHP module in the web setup before you install the Entropy version.  
>> If it's plain OS X, you'll have to comment it by hand in httpd.conf.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> On Feb 6, 2008, at 2:02 PM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote:
>>
>>> Bob,
>>>
>>> You are going down the right path...entropy is the "package" that  
>>> I use and I think that most folks use. It took me awhile to figure  
>>> out that php has many versions and and distribution points.   
>>> entropy s the best for Mac users.
>>>
>>> Regarding Os X Server (and I think that I post on this a couple  
>>> months back), Entropy installs PHP in a different location than  
>>> where PHP 4 is now. Best to follow the instructions on th Entropy  
>>> web page.  Be sure to turn off PHP 4 in Apache, as described in  
>>> the instructions.  Otherwise, Apache will not start.  Been there,  
>>> done that.
>>>
>>> If you have an extra machine, you might want to practice on that  
>>> to get a feel for what happens.
>>>
>>> BTW, Apache comes in just the flavors, 1.3 and 2.0.  Most folks  
>>> are using 1.3.  Did jaguar go with 2.0?  Don't know.
>>>
>>> The differences:
>>> 	- Short tags
>>> 	- Errors /Notices are on by default. Makes for very interesting  
>>> screens if you have Notices.
>>>
>>> That's my 2¢.
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> One more question: Mac OS X Server 10.4.11 (Tiger) is running  
>>>> Apache 1.4, isn't that right? Is there a Terminal command that  
>>>> would return the version to me?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Bob Patin
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>>>> On Feb 6, 2008, at 1:27 PM, David Ness wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm no expert... but I think you want to use a "pre-packaged"  
>>>>> installer.
>>>>> The one everyone seems to recommend is:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.entropy.ch/software/macosx/php/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: fx.php_list-bounces at mail.iviking.org
>>>>> [mailto:fx.php_list-bounces at mail.iviking.org] On Behalf Of Bob  
>>>>> Patin
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 2:25 PM
>>>>> To: FX.php Discussion List
>>>>> Subject: [FX.php List] [...barely off-topic] Upgrading webserver  
>>>>> from
>>>>> PHP 4to 5
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, given Chris Hansen's inquiry about PHP versions, I think  
>>>>> it's time
>>>>> for me to bite the bullet and start upgrading my web servers' PHP
>>>>> installs. I have quite a few web servers, so my plan is to start  
>>>>> with
>>>>> the machine that has the least web apps on it, and hold my  
>>>>> breath...
>>>>>
>>>>> Having said that, I was hoping that those who have gone through  
>>>>> this
>>>>> before might answer a couple of questions:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. On a machine running Mac OS X Server Tiger, is the install
>>>>> basically a double-click-and-install type of process, or is it  
>>>>> more
>>>>> complex? Are there known gotchas when I do this (not relating to  
>>>>> web
>>>>> apps, I'm getting to that)?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. What is the optimal version to install (5.2.5) is what I see at
>>>>> php.net?
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. OK, once I've got it installed, I need to make sure all the web
>>>>> apps continue to work. They were all written in PHP 4, and I've  
>>>>> never
>>>>> declared a variable in PHP 4 (which has come back to bite me  
>>>>> with off-
>>>>> site-hosted solutions).
>>>>>
>>>>> So what are known issues I'm going to want to repair in my web  
>>>>> apps? I
>>>>> plan to turn off ALLOW SHORT OPEN TAGS, which I don't use  
>>>>> anyway...
>>>>> anything else?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your help, oh wise ones...
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob Patin
>>>>> Longterm Solutions
>>>>> bob at longtermsolutions.com
>>>>> 615-333-6858
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