[FX.php List] [...barely off-topic] Upgrading webserver from PHP 4to 5

Bob Patin bob at patin.com
Wed Feb 6 20:13:25 MST 2008


Dale,

Quick question, now that I installed PHP 5:

I turned off PHP 4 in Server Admin (OS X Server Tiger), installed, and  
then went back into Server Admin. I see the PHP 4 module; is it now in  
reality the PHP 5 module??

Thanks,

Bob


On Feb 6, 2008, at 3:26 PM, Dale Bengston wrote:

> Bob,
>
> I have installed the Entropy version on 10.4.11 as well, both OS X  
> and OS X Server. Just remember, if it's OS X Server, turn off the  
> PHP module in the web setup before you install the Entropy version.  
> If it's plain OS X, you'll have to comment it by hand in httpd.conf.
>
> Dale
>
> On Feb 6, 2008, at 2:02 PM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote:
>
>> Bob,
>>
>> You are going down the right path...entropy is the "package" that I  
>> use and I think that most folks use. It took me awhile to figure  
>> out that php has many versions and and distribution points.   
>> entropy s the best for Mac users.
>>
>> Regarding Os X Server (and I think that I post on this a couple  
>> months back), Entropy installs PHP in a different location than  
>> where PHP 4 is now. Best to follow the instructions on th Entropy  
>> web page.  Be sure to turn off PHP 4 in Apache, as described in the  
>> instructions.  Otherwise, Apache will not start.  Been there, done  
>> that.
>>
>> If you have an extra machine, you might want to practice on that to  
>> get a feel for what happens.
>>
>> BTW, Apache comes in just the flavors, 1.3 and 2.0.  Most folks are  
>> using 1.3.  Did jaguar go with 2.0?  Don't know.
>>
>> The differences:
>> 	- Short tags
>> 	- Errors /Notices are on by default. Makes for very interesting  
>> screens if you have Notices.
>>
>> That's my 2¢.
>>
>> J
>>
>>
>>
>>> One more question: Mac OS X Server 10.4.11 (Tiger) is running  
>>> Apache 1.4, isn't that right? Is there a Terminal command that  
>>> would return the version to me?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Bob Patin
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>>> On Feb 6, 2008, at 1:27 PM, David Ness wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm no expert... but I think you want to use a "pre-packaged"  
>>>> installer.
>>>> The one everyone seems to recommend is:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.entropy.ch/software/macosx/php/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: fx.php_list-bounces at mail.iviking.org
>>>> [mailto:fx.php_list-bounces at mail.iviking.org] On Behalf Of Bob  
>>>> Patin
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 2:25 PM
>>>> To: FX.php Discussion List
>>>> Subject: [FX.php List] [...barely off-topic] Upgrading webserver  
>>>> from
>>>> PHP 4to 5
>>>>
>>>> OK, given Chris Hansen's inquiry about PHP versions, I think it's  
>>>> time
>>>> for me to bite the bullet and start upgrading my web servers' PHP
>>>> installs. I have quite a few web servers, so my plan is to start  
>>>> with
>>>> the machine that has the least web apps on it, and hold my  
>>>> breath...
>>>>
>>>> Having said that, I was hoping that those who have gone through  
>>>> this
>>>> before might answer a couple of questions:
>>>>
>>>> 1. On a machine running Mac OS X Server Tiger, is the install
>>>> basically a double-click-and-install type of process, or is it more
>>>> complex? Are there known gotchas when I do this (not relating to  
>>>> web
>>>> apps, I'm getting to that)?
>>>>
>>>> 2. What is the optimal version to install (5.2.5) is what I see at
>>>> php.net?
>>>>
>>>> 3. OK, once I've got it installed, I need to make sure all the web
>>>> apps continue to work. They were all written in PHP 4, and I've  
>>>> never
>>>> declared a variable in PHP 4 (which has come back to bite me with  
>>>> off-
>>>> site-hosted solutions).
>>>>
>>>> So what are known issues I'm going to want to repair in my web  
>>>> apps? I
>>>> plan to turn off ALLOW SHORT OPEN TAGS, which I don't use anyway...
>>>> anything else?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your help, oh wise ones...
>>>>
>>>> Bob Patin
>>>> Longterm Solutions
>>>> bob at longtermsolutions.com
>>>> 615-333-6858
>>>> http://www.longtermsolutions.com
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