[FX.php List] Identifying off topic posts (was NTLM protocol)

[Chris Hansen]

List,

This is as good a place as any for me to step in...  To be precise,  
this is an FX.php list.  And I should state up front that both Bob  
and Gjermund make valid points: most solutions any of us do will use  
multiple technologies, but there needs to be line over which messages  
are labeled as off topic ([Off] is sufficient if that's preferable to  
the sender.)  For example, the current php.ini thread is on the  
border of off topic -- yes it is straight PHP, but the question  
thread could almost be on any PHP list.

So where is the line?  Quite frankly that's hard to define.  Some  
posts are obviously ON topic -- migration from a previous version of  
FM/FX.php, how does one handle FileMaker checkboxes via the web,  
etc.  Some posts are obviously way OFF topic (using FileMaker with  
Cold Fusion, for example) and shouldn't be on the list at all.   
Fortunately we almost never get those =)  The gray area in between is  
somewhat hard to define, and is where messages should be flagged by  
the poster.  If a list member feels that a post should be labeled as  
off topic, they may say so.  If the poster feels that this request is  
unreasonable, they may appeal directly to me.  (The last thing anyone  
wants is threads which are essentially "are not", "are too", ad  
nauseam ;-)

So the originating thread IS off topic, but also IS very welcome and  
appropriate on the list.  Just mark is as [Off].  Don't assume that  
an [Off] post will get less attention, because some of us (me at  
least) are very interested in the interesting ways that FX.php can be  
used with other technologies.  99.9% of the time list members mark  
messages appropriately, so no one should worry about this too much.   
And if you slip up, rest assured that someone on the list will tell  
you so.

HTH

--Chris Hansen
   FileMaker 8 Certified Developer
   FileMaker 7 Certified Developer
   Creator of FX.php
   "The best way from FileMaker to the Web."
   www.iViking.org


On Nov 1, 2007, at 3:09 PM, Bob Patin wrote:

> Excuse me, but what is "pure PHP?" Every solution I use combines a  
> lot of things, including FX.php, PHP, FileMaker Pro, and general  
> web design technology.
>
> This particular web app, which I'm writing in FX.php, is one where  
> my client asked if the login could use NTLM. I was looking for  
> someone who'd done that with PHP, which I'd then integrate with her  
> FX.php web app.
>
> If this bothers other listers, I'd like to know about it;  
> generally, I like the idea that we share PHP knowledge on this  
> list, and if this offends GGT, then that's regrettable...
>
> Bob Patin
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> On Nov 1, 2007, at 2:09 PM, Gjermund Gusland Thorsen wrote:
>
>> This messages qualifies for: [OffTopic] NTLM protocol
>>
>> I am not complaining that you asked the question, but if it is not
>> pure php or FX.php,
>> topics should have [OffTopic] in subject.
>>
>> ggt667
>>
>> On 11/1/07, Bob Patin <bob at patin.com> wrote:
>>> Has anyone on this list used the NTLM protocol to allow users of  
>>> a PHP
>>> solution to have access after they've logged in using the NTLM
>>> protocol? Not being a Microsoft person, I know nothing about it,  
>>> but a
>>> client is asking if I can use it for an authentication system for a
>>> new web app.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Bob Patin
>>> Longterm Solutions
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