[FX.php List] Approach to User initiated mass mail capability

[Jonathan Schwartz]

Alex,

This is a much longer discussion, but the solution to your challenge 
extends past a cooperative ISP.

If you plan to send mass emails from an ISP using a Dynamic IP, your 
emails have a far greater chance of hitting the spam bucket than if 
the email originated from a Static IP.

Is this fair?  No.  But it's the reality of dealing with spam filters 
that use any glint of information they can to decide if incoming 
emails are legit or not.

I discovered this tidbit the hard way.  My emails were being sent 
from my home office (Comcast with dynamic IP) through my own mail 
server at a colo facility (static IP) and on to the recipients.  Spam 
filters were blocking my emails due to the Comcast origination.  I 
now send the campaigns directly from the mail server at the colo.

Again...this is a pandora's box.  If you would like to see how your 
emails rate with all the spam filters out there, sign up for free 
24hour demo at emailreach.com.  Prepare to be frustrated. ;-)

Hope that helps.

Jonathan


At 10:02 AM -0500 8/17/07, Alex Gates wrote:
>Anyone have a recommendation for an SMTP host that would allow three, four,
>or even five thousand emails to be sent per day?
>Of course, I would want to send them in chunks with time between...
>Or - if not, have any of you used Constant Contact or anything similar that
>you liked enough to recommend?
>
>Alex
>
>
>>
>>  alex. it sounds like it's time to get a new host.
>>
>>  cablevision (optimum online) did that to us (cap of 50 names per email
>>  and i think 200 total per hour) and we went for verizon FIOS service.
>>  there are no restrictions we've seen with them.
>>
>>  dan
>>
>>
>>  Alex Gates had written:
>>  > Hi Jonathan -
>>  >
>>  > I think the cron job is a good idea - but I'd think the most likely
>>  problem
>>  > would be with your smtp host not approving of the large numbers.
>>  > This is the problem I have - I'd like to do the same thing with a
>>  cron
>>  > job... but my host said we'd get blacklisted if we send too many.
>>  >
>>  > Alex
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >> -----Original Message-----
>>  >> From: fx.php_list-bounces at mail.iviking.org [mailto:fx.php_list-
>>  >> bounces at mail.iviking.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Schwartz
>>  >> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 9:33 PM
>>  >> To: FX.php Discussion List
>>  >> Subject: [FX.php List] Approach to User initiated mass mail
>>  capability
>>  >>
>>  >> Hi Folks,
>>  >>
>>  >> I looking to remove myself from the middle... between client's FMP
>>  >> data and the need send occasional mass mailings.  Up to this point,
>>  I
>>  >> have been the producing custom html emailings using SMTPIt.
>>  >>
>>  >> I have created email campaign creation screens that allow authorized
>>  >> users to specify email subject and email content.  For the latter, I
>>  >> am using web based WYSIWYGPro that allows creation of HTML code.  I
>>  >> have  a test mode that sends test emails back to the sender.
>>  Finally,
>>  >> I allow the user to select all or a portion of the entire list.
>>  >>
>>  >> The question is how to save, queue and send email jobs once they
>>  have
>>  >> been created.
>>  >>
>>  >> At this point in the testing, I have simply sent the emails with a
>>  >> foreach statement that immediately sends the emails found by an
>>  >> fx.php query.  The script ties up the user's browser until the send
>>  >> is complete.
>>  >>
>>  >> This might be fine for a handful of recipients, but not 100's to
>>  >> 1000's.
>>  >>
>>  >> I'm thinking of using an array saved to a flat file, and perhaps a
>>  >> cron job to look for queued send jobs...although I have not tried
>>  >> this before.
>>  >>
>>  >> Does this sound right?
>>  >>
>>  >> Thanks
>>  >>
>>  >> Jonathan
>>  >>
>>  >>
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