[FX.php List] FMS 12 with FX sample solution

Sat Jul 19 18:50:13 MDT 2014

I've been struggling with getting our Filemaker 12 Server lately.  I had no problem until about a week ago when for some reason the admin console decided not to load.  I reinstalled FMS 12 three times today.  What I think worked was wiping out Java on
the Windows 8 server and then letting the FM server install load the version of Java it wanted.  

Next, I was trying to move my project to next steps by implementing CWP using FX.  However, I haven't got it to work. Would anyone mind sending me a sample solution using FM 12 and webpages so I can load them on our server just to test that FX is going
to work with 12?  All the databases that come with the FX download are previous versions of FM.

Thank you.

Kathleen Mohr
Director of Technology/Professional Development
North Central Ohio Educational Service Center
Tiffin Center
928 West Market Street
Tiffin, Ohio  44883
Tiffin Office: 419-447-2929 x172
Cell: 419-939-3645
kmohr at ncoesc.org

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>Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 20:20:28 -0700
>From: Joel Shapiro <mail at jsfmp.com>
>Subject: [FX.php List] [OFF] Multiple Servers [WAS FMS13 & SSL?]
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>(Thought it appropriate to change the subject.)
>
>Thanks everybody for your comments.  Interesting, no?
>
>For my part, my sites have almost always been just FM (no MySQL, etc.).  I've had clients on both 1- & 2-machine configs, with no noticeable difference.  The current client that led to this initial post has had 2-machine "FM" configs since long before I
>started working with them.  When they decided they were ready for FM13, they automatically allocated two VMs for the purpose, and I figured we might as well use them.  We're planning to bring their old FM10 & FM11 CWP solutions onto here as well, which
>would be still more traffic.  Maybe I was naive to think FMI's suggestion would lead to better performance.  There is also, though, the possiblity they may some day use a bit of WebDirect, so keeping with the FM/WPE web server _seemed_ like the right
>choice.
>
>(Am I the only person here putting the WPE onto the web server?)
>
>I will say, though, that I never understood why FMI never mentions the non-FM web server in their "deployment alternatives", since (a) it's easier & (b) could allow *more* use of FM/CWP by letting people know they can have their FM-served data on their
>existing website/webhost.
>
>-Joel
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>Message: 2
>Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 07:41:41 -0500
>From: Bob Patin <bob at patin.com>
>Subject: Re: [FX.php List] [OFF] Multiple Servers [WAS FMS13 & SSL?]
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>On Jul 17, 2014, at 10:20 PM, Joel Shapiro <mail at jsfmp.com> wrote:
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>> (Am I the only person here putting the WPE onto the web server?)
>
>No, thats what I used to do all the time, but not anymore; I like the idea of having a web server that has no WPE on it, and then accessing the WPE on whatever FM Server I plan to use for that web app. 
>
>What would really be nice is if somehow we could use a single machine with multiple WPEs on it; this can be done w/ virtual machines though...
>> 
>> I will say, though, that I never understood why FMI never mentions the non-FM web server in their "deployment alternatives", since (a) it's easier & (b) could allow *more* use of FM/CWP by letting people know they can have their FM-served data on
>their existing website/webhost.
>
>They do mention it, as the 3-machine alternative, although Ive never tried it. They dont really mention the method that Im using now though, where the WPE is on FM Server and the web server is just a normal non-FM web server; I suspect thats because
>their best-use guidelines recommend not using FM Server for anything but database service
>
>I dont go to FMI for any assistance with FM things though; my experience with their tech support has (to put it mildly) not been positive.
>
>Bob Patin
>Longterm Solutions
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>Message: 3
>Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 07:49:34 -0700
>From: Joel Shapiro <mail at jsfmp.com>
>Subject: Re: [FX.php List] [OFF] Multiple Servers [WAS FMS13 & SSL?]
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>Hi Bob
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>FWIW: The "getting started guides" state that the 3-machine & 2-machine "alternative" (both of which they removed with FMS13) have the "Web Server Module" on the web server machine, which they define as "this FileMaker Server software component is
>installed on the web server host machine. The Web Server Module enables the Web Publishing Engine to connect to the web server."  So it looks like they never give an option for a non-FM machine to be in the mix.
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>Best,
>-Joel
>
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>On Jul 18, 2014, at 5:41 AM, Bob Patin <bob at patin.com> wrote:
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>>> I will say, though, that I never understood why FMI never mentions the non-FM web server in their "deployment alternatives", since (a) it's easier & (b) could allow *more* use of FM/CWP by letting people know they can have their FM-served data on
>their existing website/webhost.
>> 
>> They do mention it, as the 3-machine alternative, although Ive never tried it.
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>Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 11:12:53 -0400
>From: Denis Somar <dsomar at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [FX.php List] [OFF] Multiple Servers [WAS FMS13 & SSL?]
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>There's also a recent walkthrough on setting up FMS with an inexpensive SSL
>certificate here:
>https://fmdev.filemaker.com/thread/77246
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>HTH,
>Denis
>
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>On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Joel Shapiro <mail at jsfmp.com> wrote:
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>> Hi Bob
>>
>> FWIW: The "getting started guides" state that the 3-machine & 2-machine
>> "alternative" (both of which they removed with FMS13) have the "Web Server
>> Module" on the web server machine, which they define as "this FileMaker
>> Server software component is installed on the web server host machine. The
>> Web Server Module enables the Web Publishing Engine to connect to the web
>> server."  So it looks like they never give an option for a non-FM machine
>> to be in the mix.
>>
>> Best,
>> -Joel
>>
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2014, at 5:41 AM, Bob Patin <bob at patin.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> I will say, though, that I never understood why FMI never mentions the
>> non-FM web server in their "deployment alternatives", since (a) it's easier
>> & (b) could allow *more* use of FM/CWP by letting people know they can have
>> their FM-served data on their existing website/webhost.
>> >
>> > They do mention it, as the 3-machine alternative, although Ive never
>> tried it.
>>
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>Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 10:26:03 -0500
>From: Bob Patin <bob at patin.com>
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>Oh well...
>
>I'm going to keep doing it as I am now: do a 1-machine install, use a web server on the 2nd machine to connect to the WPE on the FM Server. 
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>BP
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>Bob Patin
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>On Jul 18, 2014, at 9:49 AM, Joel Shapiro <mail at jsfmp.com> wrote:
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>> Hi Bob
>> 
>> FWIW: The "getting started guides" state that the 3-machine & 2-machine "alternative" (both of which they removed with FMS13) have the "Web Server Module" on the web server machine, which they define as "this FileMaker Server software component is
>installed on the web server host machine. The Web Server Module enables the Web Publishing Engine to connect to the web server."  So it looks like they never give an option for a non-FM machine to be in the mix.
>> 
>> Best,
>> -Joel
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>Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 08:32:14 -0700
>From: Joel Shapiro <mail at jsfmp.com>
>Subject: Re: [FX.php List] [OFF] Multiple Servers [WAS FMS13 & SSL?]
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>You seem to be in the majority  ;)
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>On Jul 18, 2014, at 8:26 AM, Bob Patin <bob at patin.com> wrote:
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>> Oh well...
>> 
>> I'm going to keep doing it as I am now: do a 1-machine install, use a web server on the 2nd machine to connect to the WPE on the FM Server. 
>> 
>> BP
>> 
>> Bob Patin
>> Longterm Solutions
>> bob at longtermsolutions.com
>> 615-333-6858
>> FileMaker 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 Certified Developer
>> http://www.longtermsolutions.com
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>> iChat: bobpatin at me.com
>> Twitter: bobpatin
>> 
>> FileMaker Consulting 
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>> On Jul 18, 2014, at 9:49 AM, Joel Shapiro <mail at jsfmp.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Bob
>>> 
>>> FWIW: The "getting started guides" state that the 3-machine & 2-machine "alternative" (both of which they removed with FMS13) have the "Web Server Module" on the web server machine, which they define as "this FileMaker Server software component is
>installed on the web server host machine. The Web Server Module enables the Web Publishing Engine to connect to the web server."  So it looks like they never give an option for a non-FM machine to be in the mix.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> -Joel
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