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Joel Shapiro
jsfmp at earthlink.net
Fri Jan 31 12:30:03 MST 2014
Hi Bev
You mention the need to "revise other's sites using any (or all) of these web applications". This was a concern brought up by Steve Thoms on this list back in June when we were (again) discussing frameworks:
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On Jun 20, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Steven Thoms wrote:
> So, it's clear frameworks are preferred here, and I use them, and largely agree.
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> That said, I often choose to write procedural code for a simple reason; more people can pick it up, read through it and solve a problem. When I have a small client, with a limited budget, I think the kindest, long term solution is to write a neat, well-commented procedural experience. This gives them many more options in future, after I'm gone. If the code is well commented, I believe a novice can often go in, take a peak and maybe avoid spending a bunch of money hiring a big gun with big tools.
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> Security often overrides this calculus, but I wanted to inject the simplicity point for discussion.
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> - Steve
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I'm the first to admit I have minimal experience w/ frameworks, but I've also inherited a couple projects that used them. One used a self-written framework that I just could not understand and in the end I had to turn away the project. The other at least used a known framework that had documentation & a support community.
a) Do you find that knowing at least one framework well allows you to fairly easily adapt to other frameworks if/when necessary?
b) In general, at what point might we be doing a disservice to our clients when we -- as the already small pond of FileMaker/CWP devs -- add yet another layer of software(?) onto our clients' projects? It seems something like jQuery is quite common/standard (although that's started changing now too), but when it's Cake vs Laravel vs CodeIgniter vs home-grown vs..., are we just making it harder for our clients if they ever need to switch away from us as their developers?
-Joel
On Jan 31, 2014, at 4:28 AM, BEVERLY VOTH wrote:
> cake was the closest I'd seen to my own MVC framework that I had developed over many years. My framework isn't so 'hard coded', tho. I work in PHP and ColdFusion (and once upon a time in Tango/WiTango - now called TeraScript). I've also had to change from one to another (same site) or revise other's sites using any (or all) of these web applications. I'm not tied to any of them, so my framework is open enough to convert and/or conjoin.
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> Beverly
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