[FX.php List] Tired of making special solutions for every browser?

Gjermund Gusland Thorsen ggt667 at gmail.com
Thu May 7 09:26:12 MDT 2009


Still after what Lundgren writes, there will most likely be less
issues for each developer after they start using the standard I
mentioned,
and read up on the topic on how to serve the standard correctly.

ggt

2009/5/7 Tim 'Webko' Booth <tim at nicheit.com.au>:
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> On the top of each of your solutions, you will have less problems. Why?
>>>> Because this is the DOCTYPE that most browsers renders in almost the
>>>> same way.
>>>
>>> I'd like for that to be true, but IE6 (still 20%+ of my users) will fail
>>> this rather badly - it didn't (and never will) have proper XHTML 1.0
>>> compliance. If only IE had actually followed the standards in the first
>>> place!!
>>>
>>> Use of IE 6 specific style sheet hacks will get around the worst of it,
>>> but sometimes I still have to resort to table based layouts for
>>> very-very-backwards compatability. Which sucks.
>>
>> IE always did and always will suck, I agree. Not even in version 7, which
>> isn't THAT old, did Microsoft bother to follow some of the most basic parts
>> of web standards. If it was up to me, everyone would stop using IE below
>> version 8.
>>
>> However, one important thing to note regarding the common misconception
>> that writing your site in XHTML is the way to go, is that the absolute
>> majority of developers don't know how to do it, resulting in that their site
>> isn't interpreted as XHTML at all (they just think everything is fine
>> because all they look at is the validator and output XHTML from their
>> server).
>>
>> Unless you really feel confident that you know why I'm saying this about
>> XHTML, you are probably serving your XHTML pages as plain HTML and/or your
>> pages are just tag soup to the browser and/or it interprets it in
>> quirks/tolerant mode.
>
> OK, now I'm intrigued - if I have declared my outputted page as XHTML in the
> head, and it then validates vs a decent validator, and it is valid XML - how
> is it not XHTML??
>
> (Oh and don't get me wrong, for various reasons some of the sites I am
> 'responsible' for are very badly broken on that level, but I know how and
> why)
>
> Cheers
>
> Webko
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