[FX.php List] [OT] (mostly) CTRL-N in browser

[Dale Bengston]

Hi Steve,

I think it's important to let a browser window be a browser window  
and a FileMaker window be a FileMaker window. There are certain  
things that will just work differently from one to the other.

While control-n can be used to create a new record directly in  
FileMaker, no such mechanism exists in a web browser because the  
browser window is not directly connected to the data; it is by nature  
separated from the data. (I consider this one of the great advantages  
to using the web as an interface - I don't have to create an  
environment in FileMaker if I want to separated data from structure  
from interface.) At best, you could hope to use control-n to fake out  
a browser to load a web page that allows the user to enter data for a  
new record and then submit it to FileMaker. This is already different  
than creating a new record in FMP and filling it in.

So, I guess my long-winded point is, play to the strengths of your  
environment. The web may offer you some better ways to do certain  
things than straight FMP client-server, and some workflows will  
probably have to change because you can't replicate certain FMP  
behaviors. Import and export come to mind. I also recall someone on  
the FBA list once lamenting that FMI had not arranged it so they  
could pop up custom dialog boxes via the web like they could in FMP.  
(Huh?)

My rule of thumb is, when developing FileMaker client-server, I think  
like a FileMaker developer. When developing for the web, I think like  
a web developer.

Dale

--
Dale Bengston, Partner
Streamline Studio, LLC
(a division of The Whole Brain Group)
Member, FileMaker Business Alliance



On Sep 5, 2007, at 1:51 AM, Steve Winter wrote:

> Hi Kevin,
>
> Thanks for your reply... that's much as I feared would be the case,  
> i.e. bad
> luck, can't be done...
>
> And yes, Exchange web client is definitely using ActiveX, and  
> you're quite
> right that I don't want to go anywhere near that...!!
>
> I guess my only option is to locate key combinations which no browser
> currently recognises, but at that point there's no point, since I  
> won't be
> able to use the regular FM ones like CTRL-N, CTRL-S etc so I should  
> just
> save myself the grief... wasn't really critical, just a 'nice to  
> have' cool
> feature...
>
> Thanks
> Steve
>
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> [mailto:fx.php_list-bounces at mail.iviking.org] On Behalf Of Kevin  
> Futter
> Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2007 11:23 p.m.
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> Subject: Re: [FX.php List] [OT] (mostly) CTRL-N in browser
>
> On 5/9/07 12:18 AM, "Steve Winter" <steve at bluecrocodile.co.nz> wrote:
>
>> Nice thought, but no cigar... browser still does it¹s own thing,  
>> as well
> as
>> loading my desired page L
>>
>
> There's no way around that Steve. The browser intercepts all calls  
> first and
> then passes them to the JavaScript interpreter as appropriate. If your
> keystroke or combination already invokes an action in the browser,  
> it's
> already happened before JavaScript gets to see it. The Outlook Web  
> Client
> probably uses ActiveX in IE to manage it, and those features are  
> probably
> not available to other browsers.
>
>
> -- 
> Kevin Futter
> Webmaster, St. Bernard's College
> http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au/
>
>
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