[FX.php List] [Off] Not a valid path - for scheduled backups

Joel Shapiro jsfmp at earthlink.net
Tue Nov 20 19:34:48 MST 2007


My understanding is the same as Bob's -- that backing up to an  
external drive is "risky" because if the drive gets disconnected no  
backups get made.  Perhaps with the new alerts in FMS9 this is not  
*as big* an issue as pre-9, but I believe it's still FMI's  
recommendation to backup locally.

There's a good article by Wim Decorte about using shell scripts to  
make remote zips of locally backed up files.  It includes a VBscript  
for Windows and a link (at the end) to a shell script for OS X.  I  
use the mac shell script in my development as well as at a couple  
clients' and it works great.

http://www.connectingdata.com/MoreBackups_v2.pdf

-Joel


On Nov 20, 2007, at 4:46 PM, Bob Patin wrote:

> Here in my company, we backup this way:
>
> a) hourly to the internal drive
> b) 5-10 minutes later, a shell script copies and archives that  
> backup to a 2nd internal drive
> c) at the same time, the script also shoots this ZIP file over to  
> another machine in the network
>
> In addition, we have a 2nd backup scheme that happens nightly; it  
> does the same 3 steps. We then take those daily ZIP files from the  
> network machine and write them to DVD-Rs. So at any given moment,  
> we have hourly backups on 2 hard drives, plus dailies on 3  
> different hard drives, one of which is on a physically separate  
> machine.
>
> We get around this limitation that way, so it's not a huge issue  
> for us. I was really put out though when I discovered that I  
> couldn't use an external drive with FMSA 8.
>
> Bob Patin
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> On Nov 20, 2007, at 6:41 PM, Bob Patin wrote:
>
>> I don't know; I'm just repeating what I heard at Devcon.
>>
>> If I remember correctly, their argument was that an external drive  
>> could be detached by accident. I'm not saying I agree with this (I  
>> certainly don't), but that's what I seem to recall.
>>
>> I do a lot of digital recording, as does almost every recording  
>> studio here in Nashville, and we all use external drives for  
>> recording. Digital recording requires a fast, stable connection,  
>> yet it doesn't seem to be an issue here at all. I'm at a loss to  
>> explain why FMI has decreed that external drives are not to be  
>> used for backup devices.
>>
>> Bob Patin
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>> On Nov 20, 2007, at 6:13 PM, Troy Meyers wrote:
>>
>>> Bob,
>>>
>>> I heard that network drives weren't supposed to be, but why on  
>>> earth would an external drive not be supported? That seems  
>>> ludicrous. You don't want the backup in a machine that burns up....
>>>
>>> -Troy
>>>
>>>
>>>> I thought that FMI had stated that an external drive was not
>>>> *supposed* to work as a backup location?
>>>>
>>>> This was discussed at Devcon, and I seem to recall hearing that  
>>>> it's
>>>> not a scheme that FMI says should be used, and isn't supported.
>>>>
>>>> Someone correct me if I'm wrong here... ?
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