[FX.php List] Re: FX.php_List Digest, Vol 36, Issue 44

Thu Jul 26 09:26:01 MDT 2007

Yes...

Me too.

Bob, the danger here is that one "feels" a moral duty to provide  
services.  Don't let that get in the way of good business decision  
making.  This guy probably knew he was sending you two "losers" from  
the beginning...

My two cents..

Scott Baetz
sbaetz at admininternet.net
AdminInternet
15 Indian Rock Road
Windham NH, 03087

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On Jul 25, 2007, at 4:51 PM, fx.php_list-request at mail.iviking.org wrote:

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>    1. Re: [OT] Ethical question about a client referrer
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>    2. Re: Quick tip for iPhone programmers (Bob Patin)
>    3. Re: [OT] Ethical question about a client referrer (Bob Patin)
>    4. Re: Quick tip for iPhone programmers (Gjermund Gusland Thorsen)
>    5. Re: [OT] Ethical question about a client referrer
>       (Gjermund Gusland Thorsen)
>    6. Re: Quick tip for iPhone programmers (Glenn Singleton)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 22:39:29 +0200
> From: "Gjermund Gusland Thorsen" <ggt667 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [FX.php List] [OT] Ethical question about a client
> 	referrer
> To: "FX.php Discussion List" <fx.php_list at mail.iviking.org>
> Message-ID:
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> Why don't you just write the bill in the normal way
>
> For example( imaginary numbers ):
>
> 2 regular hosting(s) $59 pr month = $118
> - rebate 10 ppt pr referral, 0 paying referrals = $0
>
> Amount due for services rendered $118
> + applicable taxes.
>
> That's how I would do it...
>
> ggt667
>
> On 7/25/07, Glenn Singleton <glenn at fmutils.com> wrote:
>> Bob,
>>
>> I get this all the time and I say *IF* the leads amount to  
>> anything, I'll do
>> you a good deal and very,very rarely free without a good reason ie  
>> charity.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Glenn Singleton
>> glenn at fmutils.com a.h.[ glenn at cornerstoneict.com.au b.h.]
>> www.fmutils.com - totally free computer software and utilites for  
>> filemaker
>> plus more
>> focusing on the needs of special children ( contributions wanted !) 
>> [Mac G4
>> OS X 10.4.9, Mail V2.1]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 26/07/2007, at 3:56 AM, Bob Patin wrote:
>>
>> Sure, send that to my special "preferred clients email address,"  
>> which is
>> dustbin at longtermsolutions.com!
>>
>> BP
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 25, 2007, at 12:43 PM, Joel Shapiro wrote:
>>
>> Hey Bob
>>
>> My friend's mother is thinking about putting up a website for her  
>> little
>> gift shop in upstate NY.  Can you give me free hosting for all my  
>> other
>> clients if I give her your email address?
>>
>> -Joel
>> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:41:08 -0500
> From: Bob Patin <bob at patin.com>
> Subject: Re: [FX.php List] Quick tip for iPhone programmers
> To: "FX.php Discussion List" <fx.php_list at mail.iviking.org>
> Message-ID: <149E9054-576D-4984-B786-1B9CBDC308F4 at patin.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Yes, but that's the way U.S. cell carriers are. They did the same
> thing with the Palm Treo for a while, although it wasn't for 5 years.
>
> Part of Apple's strategy appears to be an integration between the
> cell company and the machine, with things like visual voicemail
> (which is really cool--voice-mail starts playing as soon as you click
> it in the phone, rather than having to dial in), and hopefully
> instant messaging and other stuff.
>
> If I had a web app that was designed for sales forces I'd be working
> hard to get it ready for the iPhone... hint hint... :)
>
> <sound of guys all over the world tapping furiously to make their
> code fit onto the iPhone>
>
> Bob Patin
> Longterm Solutions
> bob at longtermsolutions.com
> 615-333-6858
> http://www.longtermsolutions.com
>
>    CONTACT US VIA INSTANT MESSAGING:
>       AIM or iChat: longterm1954
>       Yahoo: longterm_solutions
>       MSN: tech at longtermsolutions.com
>       ICQ: 159333060
>
>
> On Jul 25, 2007, at 3:29 PM, Gjermund Gusland Thorsen wrote:
>
>> It's superb for sales forces, it can coordinate people very well
>> through FX.php :-)
>>
>> The iPhone is very snappy is my impression, fast when it comes to
>> navigation.
>>
>> To bad there is a nazi issue with AT&T...
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:41:55 -0500
> From: Bob Patin <bob at patin.com>
> Subject: Re: [FX.php List] [OT] Ethical question about a client
> 	referrer
> To: "FX.php Discussion List" <fx.php_list at mail.iviking.org>
> Message-ID: <7D053199-46F7-4823-959F-EC136F238751 at patin.com>
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> Pretty funny! Sounds like a plan!
>
> On Jul 25, 2007, at 3:39 PM, Gjermund Gusland Thorsen wrote:
>
>> Why don't you just write the bill in the normal way
>>
>> For example( imaginary numbers ):
>>
>> 2 regular hosting(s) $59 pr month = $118
>> - rebate 10 ppt pr referral, 0 paying referrals = $0
>>
>> Amount due for services rendered $118
>> + applicable taxes.
>>
>> That's how I would do it...
>>
>> ggt667
>>
>> On 7/25/07, Glenn Singleton <glenn at fmutils.com> wrote:
>>> Bob,
>>>
>>> I get this all the time and I say *IF* the leads amount to
>>> anything, I'll do
>>> you a good deal and very,very rarely free without a good reason ie
>>> charity.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Glenn Singleton
>>> glenn at fmutils.com a.h.[ glenn at cornerstoneict.com.au b.h.]
>>> www.fmutils.com - totally free computer software and utilites for
>>> filemaker
>>> plus more
>>> focusing on the needs of special children ( contributions wanted !)
>>> [Mac G4
>>> OS X 10.4.9, Mail V2.1]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 26/07/2007, at 3:56 AM, Bob Patin wrote:
>>>
>>> Sure, send that to my special "preferred clients email address,"
>>> which is
>>> dustbin at longtermsolutions.com!
>>>
>>> BP
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 25, 2007, at 12:43 PM, Joel Shapiro wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Bob
>>>
>>> My friend's mother is thinking about putting up a website for her
>>> little
>>> gift shop in upstate NY.  Can you give me free hosting for all my
>>> other
>>> clients if I give her your email address?
>>>
>>> -Joel
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> FX.php_List mailing list
>>> FX.php_List at mail.iviking.org
>>> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list
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>>> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 22:50:48 +0200
> From: "Gjermund Gusland Thorsen" <ggt667 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [FX.php List] Quick tip for iPhone programmers
> To: "FX.php Discussion List" <fx.php_list at mail.iviking.org>
> Message-ID:
> 	<e6ecb7940707251350v12f49d99r581d8bd61c5fb442 at mail.gmail.com>
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>
> Mine fits :-p
>
> On 7/25/07, Bob Patin <bob at patin.com> wrote:
>> Yes, but that's the way U.S. cell carriers are. They did the same  
>> thing with
>> the Palm Treo for a while, although it wasn't for 5 years.
>>
>> Part of Apple's strategy appears to be an integration between the  
>> cell
>> company and the machine, with things like visual voicemail (which  
>> is really
>> cool--voice-mail starts playing as soon as you click it in the  
>> phone, rather
>> than having to dial in), and hopefully instant messaging and other  
>> stuff.
>>
>> If I had a web app that was designed for sales forces I'd be  
>> working hard to
>> get it ready for the iPhone... hint hint... :)
>>
>> <sound of guys all over the world tapping furiously to make their  
>> code fit
>> onto the iPhone>
>>
>> Bob Patin
>> Longterm Solutions
>> bob at longtermsolutions.com
>> 615-333-6858
>> http://www.longtermsolutions.com
>>
>>   CONTACT US VIA INSTANT MESSAGING:
>>      AIM or iChat: longterm1954
>>      Yahoo: longterm_solutions
>>      MSN: tech at longtermsolutions.com
>>      ICQ: 159333060
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 25, 2007, at 3:29 PM, Gjermund Gusland Thorsen wrote:
>>
>>
>> It's superb for sales forces, it can coordinate people very well
>>
>> through FX.php :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The iPhone is very snappy is my impression, fast when it comes to
>> navigation.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> To bad there is a nazi issue with AT&T...
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> FX.php_List mailing list
>> FX.php_List at mail.iviking.org
>> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list
>>
>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 22:51:12 +0200
> From: "Gjermund Gusland Thorsen" <ggt667 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [FX.php List] [OT] Ethical question about a client
> 	referrer
> To: "FX.php Discussion List" <fx.php_list at mail.iviking.org>
> Message-ID:
> 	<e6ecb7940707251351s3b1b0381l7d26c6f81674f404 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Funny? I find it realistic, just change the numbers...
>
> On 7/25/07, Bob Patin <bob at patin.com> wrote:
>> Pretty funny! Sounds like a plan!
>>
>> On Jul 25, 2007, at 3:39 PM, Gjermund Gusland Thorsen wrote:
>>
>>> Why don't you just write the bill in the normal way
>>>
>>> For example( imaginary numbers ):
>>>
>>> 2 regular hosting(s) $59 pr month = $118
>>> - rebate 10 ppt pr referral, 0 paying referrals = $0
>>>
>>> Amount due for services rendered $118
>>> + applicable taxes.
>>>
>>> That's how I would do it...
>>>
>>> ggt667
>>>
>>> On 7/25/07, Glenn Singleton <glenn at fmutils.com> wrote:
>>>> Bob,
>>>>
>>>> I get this all the time and I say *IF* the leads amount to
>>>> anything, I'll do
>>>> you a good deal and very,very rarely free without a good reason ie
>>>> charity.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Glenn Singleton
>>>> glenn at fmutils.com a.h.[ glenn at cornerstoneict.com.au b.h.]
>>>> www.fmutils.com - totally free computer software and utilites for
>>>> filemaker
>>>> plus more
>>>> focusing on the needs of special children ( contributions wanted !)
>>>> [Mac G4
>>>> OS X 10.4.9, Mail V2.1]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 26/07/2007, at 3:56 AM, Bob Patin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sure, send that to my special "preferred clients email address,"
>>>> which is
>>>> dustbin at longtermsolutions.com!
>>>>
>>>> BP
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 25, 2007, at 12:43 PM, Joel Shapiro wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey Bob
>>>>
>>>> My friend's mother is thinking about putting up a website for her
>>>> little
>>>> gift shop in upstate NY.  Can you give me free hosting for all my
>>>> other
>>>> clients if I give her your email address?
>>>>
>>>> -Joel
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> FX.php_List mailing list
>>>> FX.php_List at mail.iviking.org
>>>> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> FX.php_List mailing list
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>>>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 06:51:39 +1000
> From: Glenn Singleton <glenn at fmutils.com>
> Subject: Re: [FX.php List] Quick tip for iPhone programmers
> To: "FX.php Discussion List" <fx.php_list at mail.iviking.org>
> Message-ID: <0FFCFBF5-83E1-4803-938F-858BDE0B4481 at fmutils.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Does anyone have *ANY* country other than the USA that can now use
> this iPhone ?
>
> We down under have been told late 2008 which probably means 2009.
>
>
>
>
> Regards
> Glenn Singleton
> glenn at fmutils.com a.h.[ glenn at cornerstoneict.com.au b.h.]
> www.fmutils.com - totally free computer software and utilites for
> filemaker plus more
> focusing on the needs of special children ( contributions wanted !)
> [Mac G4 OS X 10.4.9, Mail V2.1]
>
>
>
>
> On 26/07/2007, at 6:41 AM, Bob Patin wrote:
>
>> Yes, but that's the way U.S. cell carriers are. They did the same
>> thing with the Palm Treo for a while, although it wasn't for 5 years.
>>
>> Part of Apple's strategy appears to be an integration between the
>> cell company and the machine, with things like visual voicemail
>> (which is really cool--voice-mail starts playing as soon as you
>> click it in the phone, rather than having to dial in), and
>> hopefully instant messaging and other stuff.
>>
>> If I had a web app that was designed for sales forces I'd be
>> working hard to get it ready for the iPhone... hint hint... :)
>>
>> <sound of guys all over the world tapping furiously to make their
>> code fit onto the iPhone>
>>
>> Bob Patin
>> Longterm Solutions
>> bob at longtermsolutions.com
>> 615-333-6858
>> http://www.longtermsolutions.com
>>
>>   CONTACT US VIA INSTANT MESSAGING:
>>      AIM or iChat: longterm1954
>>      Yahoo: longterm_solutions
>>      MSN: tech at longtermsolutions.com
>>      ICQ: 159333060
>>
>>
>> On Jul 25, 2007, at 3:29 PM, Gjermund Gusland Thorsen wrote:
>>
>>> It's superb for sales forces, it can coordinate people very well
>>> through FX.php :-)
>>>
>>> The iPhone is very snappy is my impression, fast when it comes to
>>> navigation.
>>>
>>> To bad there is a nazi issue with AT&T...
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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