[FX.php List] Problem with text formatting

[Bob Patin]

I'm a longtime Interarchy user... used Anarchie before that... hard  
to switch after all those years. I like Transmit though, it's a great  
app...

Bob Patin
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On Aug 15, 2007, at 10:36 AM, Dale Bengston wrote:

> I also endorse the use of Transmit. It is a great FTP/SFTP client.  
> I use BBEdit for coding though. One day many years ago, it just  
> happened. I found myself writing raw code in BBEdit instead of  
> using my WYSIWYG editor.
>
> Dale
>
> On Aug 15, 2007, at 10:30 AM, Michael Layne wrote:
>
>> Bob,
>>
>> I used to use and train Dreamweaver (and GoLive) years ago.  As I  
>> started becoming more of a "developer", I realized I needed to  
>> move to more serious tools.  Yep, As good as Dreamweaver is  
>> (probably still the best professional WYSIWYG out there) It was  
>> breaking things and one day I started to see the light about  
>> writing your own clean code.
>>
>> BBedit was a natural migration (being on a Mac), then I got used  
>> to it and was a bit fearful of jumping to something else... until  
>> I forced myself to start using TextMate.  WOW.  Now, I cannot  
>> stand WYSIWYG editors (although many colleagues use them).  Don't  
>> get me wrong, I am well aware of the rich feature set of  
>> Dreamweaver, but try this:
>>
>> TextMate (http://macromates.com/) - pure, powerful text editor for  
>> everything under the sun
>>
>> CSSEdit (http://macrabbit.com/) - pure CSS editor (yeah,  
>> definitely GUI-ish - although I usually use the text mode).  Who'd  
>> of thought some guy in Belgium could create such an awesome one  
>> stop shop CSS editor
>>
>> Transmit (http://www.panic.com/) - FTP client (about as good as  
>> they get) that fully integrate with the first two apps.
>>
>> It's like having three fighter jets at your disposal rather than a  
>> C-5 cargo plane.  Do you really need all that extra weight?
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> P.S. I say all this as I am working on a PHP/FileMaker/MySQL project.
>>
>>
>> On Aug 15, 2007, at 11:13 AM, Bob Patin wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Thanks guys; I've been using Dreamweaver (hard to stop after a  
>>> long time using it), and when you switch the view to the WYSIWYG  
>>> view, it updates the page. I could see that, after I replaced the  
>>> META tag, that the Japanese characters changed a bit... so I  
>>> think it's already done.
>>>
>>> At Devcon I saw a nice demo of Textmate and CSSEdit (thanks to  
>>> the good Joel Shapiro), which I vow to start using, but  
>>> Dreamweaver's really handy for its combination of preview, FTP,  
>>> and code. However, yesterday it really messed up a page I was  
>>> working on; I added a table row above my FOREACH code for  
>>> cranking out records into a table, and Dreamweaver most kindly  
>>> deleted my PHP code. It took me quite a while (it's a really  
>>> complex page) to find it too... very aggravating. A good reason  
>>> to bail on Dreamweaver.
>>>
>>> Bob Patin
>>> Longterm Solutions
>>> bob at longtermsolutions.com
>>> 615-333-6858
>>> http://www.longtermsolutions.com
>>>
>>>   CONTACT US VIA INSTANT MESSAGING:
>>>      AIM or iChat: longterm1954
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>>>      MSN: tech at longtermsolutions.com
>>>      ICQ: 159333060
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 15, 2007, at 9:39 AM, Troy Meyers wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think what Kevin is saying, is that once you change the META  
>>>> in the file, you also need to _save_ the file with the Shift_JIS  
>>>> encoding. If you are using BBEdit, look at the dropdown menus at  
>>>> the bottom of the window. One of them probably says "Western  
>>>> (Mac OS Roman)" or better, "Unicode (UTF-8)" but you should  
>>>> click on it and change it to "Japanese (Shift JIS)" and then  
>>>> save the file. That way the file encoding matches what you are  
>>>> declaring in the META tag.
>>>>
>>>> Is that what you meant, Kevin?
>>>
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>>
>>
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