From jonathan at exit445.com Fri Feb 5 13:45:52 2016 From: jonathan at exit445.com (Jonathan Schwartz) Date: Fri Feb 5 13:45:56 2016 Subject: [FX.php List] Permissions and such Message-ID: <4C0029B9-4C16-4A33-92AE-902DD273C999@exit445.com> Hi Folks. I have a nagging, unresolved problem with file permissions when using FileMaker API that I need to solve. I?ve been doing work-arounds for?well?2 years. It?s time to get it fixed. The OS is OS X. The problem is with php creating new files, specifically PDF files using pdf.php and fpdi.php, which upon creation are owned by the Apache web server user (?_www" in some cases, ?fmserver? in others). Upon creation, the permissions are such that a subsequent operation can not be performed (merging multiple PDFs, for example) because php doesn?t have permission to modify the files. (Permissions are ReadWrite/ReadOnly/ReadOnly). My work around has been to break up the steps and manually changes permissions before proceeding. There is more detail available, but the big picture is getting permissions under control to avoid these issues. I?ve tried issuing CHMOD and CHOWN commands in the php script, without success. The commands fail because php doesn?t have authority. I?ve also reviewed other approaches such as ?mask", but I can?t quite figure it out. I?ve also tried to understand how to make a group that includes all the ?users? involved, but have been unable to grasp the concept. I also understand that the is a technique to have the new files adopt the permissions of the enclosing folder, but I haven?t figure out that one yet either. I?ve got the problem in FMS 11 and 12 and I know that FMS13+ makes the problem worse. How do I do this!? Jonathan Jonathan Schwartz jonathan@exit445.com From bob at patin.com Fri Feb 5 13:48:05 2016 From: bob at patin.com (Bob Patin) Date: Fri Feb 5 13:48:08 2016 Subject: [FX.php List] Permissions and such In-Reply-To: <4C0029B9-4C16-4A33-92AE-902DD273C999@exit445.com> References: <4C0029B9-4C16-4A33-92AE-902DD273C999@exit445.com> Message-ID: Jonathan, I know this isn?t the solution you want, but I would look at MPDF instead? I?ve never had any permissions trouble with it. Bob Patin Longterm Solutions bob@longtermsolutions.com 615-333-6858 FileMaker 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 Certified Developer http://www.longtermsolutions.com - iChat: bobpatin@me.com Twitter: bobpatin ? FileMaker Consulting FileMaker Hosting for all versions of FileMaker PHP ? Full email services ? Free DNS hosting ? Colocation ? Consulting > On Feb 5, 2016, at 2:45 PM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote: > > Hi Folks. > > I have a nagging, unresolved problem with file permissions when using FileMaker API that I need to solve. I?ve been doing work-arounds for?well?2 years. It?s time to get it fixed. The OS is OS X. > > The problem is with php creating new files, specifically PDF files using pdf.php and fpdi.php, which upon creation are owned by the Apache web server user (?_www" in some cases, ?fmserver? in others). Upon creation, the permissions are such that a subsequent operation can not be performed (merging multiple PDFs, for example) because php doesn?t have permission to modify the files. (Permissions are ReadWrite/ReadOnly/ReadOnly). My work around has been to break up the steps and manually changes permissions before proceeding. > > There is more detail available, but the big picture is getting permissions under control to avoid these issues. > > I?ve tried issuing CHMOD and CHOWN commands in the php script, without success. The commands fail because php doesn?t have authority. > > I?ve also reviewed other approaches such as ?mask", but I can?t quite figure it out. > > I?ve also tried to understand how to make a group that includes all the ?users? involved, but have been unable to grasp the concept. > > I also understand that the is a technique to have the new files adopt the permissions of the enclosing folder, but I haven?t figure out that one yet either. > > I?ve got the problem in FMS 11 and 12 and I know that FMS13+ makes the problem worse. > > How do I do this!? > > > Jonathan > > > > > > Jonathan Schwartz > jonathan@exit445.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.iviking.org/pipermail/fx.php_list/attachments/20160205/9f324010/attachment.html From jonathan at exit445.com Fri Feb 5 14:05:51 2016 From: jonathan at exit445.com (Jonathan Schwartz) Date: Fri Feb 5 14:05:55 2016 Subject: [FX.php List] Permissions and such In-Reply-To: References: <4C0029B9-4C16-4A33-92AE-902DD273C999@exit445.com> Message-ID: <66F3EAAB-4523-4A3A-8BD4-EFAE10AE352B@exit445.com> Thanks, Bob. I?ll look at MPDF. But, I still need to figure out the bigger picture because I have other processes that are affected in the same way. I only provided this one example. Jonathan Jonathan Schwartz jonathan@exit445.com > On Feb 5, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Bob Patin wrote: > > Jonathan, > > I know this isn?t the solution you want, but I would look at MPDF instead? I?ve never had any permissions trouble with it. > > Bob Patin > Longterm Solutions > bob@longtermsolutions.com > 615-333-6858 > FileMaker 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 Certified Developer > http://www.longtermsolutions.com > - > iChat: bobpatin@me.com > Twitter: bobpatin > ? > FileMaker Consulting > FileMaker Hosting for all versions of FileMaker > PHP ? Full email services ? Free DNS hosting ? Colocation ? Consulting > >> On Feb 5, 2016, at 2:45 PM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote: >> >> Hi Folks. >> >> I have a nagging, unresolved problem with file permissions when using FileMaker API that I need to solve. I?ve been doing work-arounds for?well?2 years. It?s time to get it fixed. The OS is OS X. >> >> The problem is with php creating new files, specifically PDF files using pdf.php and fpdi.php, which upon creation are owned by the Apache web server user (?_www" in some cases, ?fmserver? in others). Upon creation, the permissions are such that a subsequent operation can not be performed (merging multiple PDFs, for example) because php doesn?t have permission to modify the files. (Permissions are ReadWrite/ReadOnly/ReadOnly). My work around has been to break up the steps and manually changes permissions before proceeding. >> >> There is more detail available, but the big picture is getting permissions under control to avoid these issues. >> >> I?ve tried issuing CHMOD and CHOWN commands in the php script, without success. The commands fail because php doesn?t have authority. >> >> I?ve also reviewed other approaches such as ?mask", but I can?t quite figure it out. >> >> I?ve also tried to understand how to make a group that includes all the ?users? involved, but have been unable to grasp the concept. >> >> I also understand that the is a technique to have the new files adopt the permissions of the enclosing folder, but I haven?t figure out that one yet either. >> >> I?ve got the problem in FMS 11 and 12 and I know that FMS13+ makes the problem worse. >> >> How do I do this!? >> >> >> Jonathan >> >> >> >> >> >> Jonathan Schwartz >> jonathan@exit445.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FX.php_List mailing list >> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list From bob at patin.com Wed Feb 17 10:44:49 2016 From: bob at patin.com (Bob Patin) Date: Wed Feb 17 10:44:53 2016 Subject: [FX.php List] Ports Message-ID: <59429893-9C7A-41B1-9000-69D98295173D@patin.com> I suspect that my client?s IT guys don?t have the right ports open between the web server and the database server; i manage the database server, but their web server is elsewhere. When I do a port scan of their web server from my FM Server machine, I get nothing; if ports 16000-16020 are open to my machine as they claim, should I not be able to scan that range and see them from the FM Server? Thanks, Bob Patin Longterm Solutions bob@longtermsolutions.com 615-333-6858 FileMaker 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 Certified Developer http://www.longtermsolutions.com - iChat: bobpatin@me.com Twitter: bobpatin ? FileMaker Consulting FileMaker Hosting for all versions of FileMaker PHP ? Full email services ? Free DNS hosting ? Colocation ? Consulting -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.iviking.org/pipermail/fx.php_list/attachments/20160217/0514f9e9/attachment.html From jonathan at exit445.com Wed Feb 17 10:54:16 2016 From: jonathan at exit445.com (Jonathan Schwartz) Date: Wed Feb 17 10:54:19 2016 Subject: [FX.php List] Ports In-Reply-To: <59429893-9C7A-41B1-9000-69D98295173D@patin.com> References: <59429893-9C7A-41B1-9000-69D98295173D@patin.com> Message-ID: <14BEBAEE-32DC-495A-B638-EFCB668F2EAC@exit445.com> I would hope so. Using Network Utility on OS X , here?s what I get polling my server. Feel free to duplicate. Port Scan has started? Port Scanning host: 66.116.97.237 Open TCP Port: 16000 Open TCP Port: 16001 Open TCP Port: 16012 Open TCP Port: 16016 Open TCP Port: 16020 Open TCP Port: 16021 Port Scan has completed? Jonathan Schwartz jonathan@exit445.com > On Feb 17, 2016, at 9:44 AM, Bob Patin wrote: > > I suspect that my client?s IT guys don?t have the right ports open between the web server and the database server; i manage the database server, but their web server is elsewhere. > > When I do a port scan of their web server from my FM Server machine, I get nothing; if ports 16000-16020 are open to my machine as they claim, should I not be able to scan that range and see them from the FM Server? > > Thanks, > > Bob Patin > Longterm Solutions > bob@longtermsolutions.com > 615-333-6858 > FileMaker 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 Certified Developer > http://www.longtermsolutions.com > - > iChat: bobpatin@me.com > Twitter: bobpatin > ? > FileMaker Consulting > FileMaker Hosting for all versions of FileMaker > PHP ? Full email services ? Free DNS hosting ? Colocation ? Consulting > > > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list From bob at patin.com Wed Feb 17 11:09:39 2016 From: bob at patin.com (Bob Patin) Date: Wed Feb 17 11:09:42 2016 Subject: [FX.php List] Ports In-Reply-To: <14BEBAEE-32DC-495A-B638-EFCB668F2EAC@exit445.com> References: <59429893-9C7A-41B1-9000-69D98295173D@patin.com> <14BEBAEE-32DC-495A-B638-EFCB668F2EAC@exit445.com> Message-ID: <255F4B78-6C4F-491E-9261-62FC8C08152F@patin.com> I tried that from the FM Server, but it didn?t get anything; I found a nice little PHP function that scans ports, and it?s reporting that none of the needed ports (16000-16020 and others) are open to my machine? Sigh? Bob Patin Longterm Solutions bob@longtermsolutions.com 615-333-6858 FileMaker 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 Certified Developer http://www.longtermsolutions.com - iChat: bobpatin@me.com Twitter: bobpatin ? FileMaker Consulting FileMaker Hosting for all versions of FileMaker PHP ? Full email services ? Free DNS hosting ? Colocation ? Consulting > On Feb 17, 2016, at 11:54 AM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote: > > I would hope so. > > Using Network Utility on OS X , here?s what I get polling my server. Feel free to duplicate. > > > Port Scan has started? > > Port Scanning host: 66.116.97.237 > > Open TCP Port: 16000 > Open TCP Port: 16001 > Open TCP Port: 16012 > Open TCP Port: 16016 > Open TCP Port: 16020 > Open TCP Port: 16021 > Port Scan has completed? > > > Jonathan Schwartz > jonathan@exit445.com > > > >> On Feb 17, 2016, at 9:44 AM, Bob Patin wrote: >> >> I suspect that my client?s IT guys don?t have the right ports open between the web server and the database server; i manage the database server, but their web server is elsewhere. >> >> When I do a port scan of their web server from my FM Server machine, I get nothing; if ports 16000-16020 are open to my machine as they claim, should I not be able to scan that range and see them from the FM Server? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Bob Patin >> Longterm Solutions >> bob@longtermsolutions.com >> 615-333-6858 >> FileMaker 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 Certified Developer >> http://www.longtermsolutions.com >> - >> iChat: bobpatin@me.com >> Twitter: bobpatin >> ? >> FileMaker Consulting >> FileMaker Hosting for all versions of FileMaker >> PHP ? 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URL: http://mail.iviking.org/pipermail/fx.php_list/attachments/20160217/ba9af757/attachment-0001.html From jonathan at exit445.com Wed Feb 17 11:14:18 2016 From: jonathan at exit445.com (Jonathan Schwartz) Date: Wed Feb 17 11:14:21 2016 Subject: [FX.php List] Ports In-Reply-To: <255F4B78-6C4F-491E-9261-62FC8C08152F@patin.com> References: <59429893-9C7A-41B1-9000-69D98295173D@patin.com> <14BEBAEE-32DC-495A-B638-EFCB668F2EAC@exit445.com> <255F4B78-6C4F-491E-9261-62FC8C08152F@patin.com> Message-ID: <6247DB69-413F-4F3E-AF81-3DD30CAFF6D9@exit445.com> Understand that you aren't getting desired result between your FMP server and client web server. But are you getting the desired results using my server, as a base test? FYI, I usually have to ask more than once to get ports opened when working with this party web servers. Hope that helps, J Jonathan Schwartz jonathan@exit445.com > On Feb 17, 2016, at 10:09 AM, Bob Patin wrote: > > I tried that from the FM Server, but it didn?t get anything; I found a nice little PHP function that scans ports, and it?s reporting that none of the needed ports (16000-16020 and others) are open to my machine? > > Sigh? > > Bob Patin > Longterm Solutions > bob@longtermsolutions.com > 615-333-6858 > FileMaker 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 Certified Developer > http://www.longtermsolutions.com > - > iChat: bobpatin@me.com > Twitter: bobpatin > ? > FileMaker Consulting > FileMaker Hosting for all versions of FileMaker > PHP ? Full email services ? Free DNS hosting ? Colocation ? Consulting > >> On Feb 17, 2016, at 11:54 AM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote: >> >> I would hope so. >> >> Using Network Utility on OS X , here?s what I get polling my server. Feel free to duplicate. >> >> >> Port Scan has started? >> >> Port Scanning host: 66.116.97.237 >> >> Open TCP Port: 16000 >> Open TCP Port: 16001 >> Open TCP Port: 16012 >> Open TCP Port: 16016 >> Open TCP Port: 16020 >> Open TCP Port: 16021 >> Port Scan has completed? >> >> >> Jonathan Schwartz >> jonathan@exit445.com >> >> >> >>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 9:44 AM, Bob Patin wrote: >>> >>> I suspect that my client?s IT guys don?t have the right ports open between the web server and the database server; i manage the database server, but their web server is elsewhere. >>> >>> When I do a port scan of their web server from my FM Server machine, I get nothing; if ports 16000-16020 are open to my machine as they claim, should I not be able to scan that range and see them from the FM Server? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Bob Patin >>> Longterm Solutions >>> bob@longtermsolutions.com >>> 615-333-6858 >>> FileMaker 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 Certified Developer >>> http://www.longtermsolutions.com >>> - >>> iChat: bobpatin@me.com >>> Twitter: bobpatin >>> ? >>> FileMaker Consulting >>> FileMaker Hosting for all versions of FileMaker >>> PHP ? Full email services ? Free DNS hosting ? Colocation ? Consulting >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FX.php_List mailing list >>> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >>> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FX.php_List mailing list >> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list From bob at patin.com Wed Feb 17 11:16:35 2016 From: bob at patin.com (Bob Patin) Date: Wed Feb 17 11:16:37 2016 Subject: [FX.php List] Ports In-Reply-To: <6247DB69-413F-4F3E-AF81-3DD30CAFF6D9@exit445.com> References: <59429893-9C7A-41B1-9000-69D98295173D@patin.com> <14BEBAEE-32DC-495A-B638-EFCB668F2EAC@exit445.com> <255F4B78-6C4F-491E-9261-62FC8C08152F@patin.com> <6247DB69-413F-4F3E-AF81-3DD30CAFF6D9@exit445.com> Message-ID: <7BEB0470-DF82-48E9-8CC5-51FA6477E216@patin.com> I get some of it; I get 80, 16000, 50003, but I don?t get the other ports in the 16000 range that FM says we need to have open; what I?m trying to have opened are 16000 thru 16018 50003 50008 Not totally sure about the last 2 being necessary for web apps though? B Bob Patin Longterm Solutions bob@longtermsolutions.com 615-333-6858 FileMaker 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 Certified Developer http://www.longtermsolutions.com - iChat: bobpatin@me.com Twitter: bobpatin ? FileMaker Consulting FileMaker Hosting for all versions of FileMaker PHP ? Full email services ? Free DNS hosting ? Colocation ? Consulting > On Feb 17, 2016, at 12:14 PM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote: > > Understand that you aren't getting desired result between your FMP server and client web server. > > But are you getting the desired results using my server, as a base test? > > FYI, I usually have to ask more than once to get ports opened when working with this party web servers. > > Hope that helps, > > J > > > Jonathan Schwartz > jonathan@exit445.com > > > >> On Feb 17, 2016, at 10:09 AM, Bob Patin wrote: >> >> I tried that from the FM Server, but it didn?t get anything; I found a nice little PHP function that scans ports, and it?s reporting that none of the needed ports (16000-16020 and others) are open to my machine? >> >> Sigh? >> >> Bob Patin >> Longterm Solutions >> bob@longtermsolutions.com >> 615-333-6858 >> FileMaker 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 Certified Developer >> http://www.longtermsolutions.com >> - >> iChat: bobpatin@me.com >> Twitter: bobpatin >> ? >> FileMaker Consulting >> FileMaker Hosting for all versions of FileMaker >> PHP ? Full email services ? Free DNS hosting ? Colocation ? Consulting >> >>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 11:54 AM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote: >>> >>> I would hope so. >>> >>> Using Network Utility on OS X , here?s what I get polling my server. Feel free to duplicate. >>> >>> >>> Port Scan has started? >>> >>> Port Scanning host: 66.116.97.237 >>> >>> Open TCP Port: 16000 >>> Open TCP Port: 16001 >>> Open TCP Port: 16012 >>> Open TCP Port: 16016 >>> Open TCP Port: 16020 >>> Open TCP Port: 16021 >>> Port Scan has completed? >>> >>> >>> Jonathan Schwartz >>> jonathan@exit445.com >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 9:44 AM, Bob Patin wrote: >>>> >>>> I suspect that my client?s IT guys don?t have the right ports open between the web server and the database server; i manage the database server, but their web server is elsewhere. >>>> >>>> When I do a port scan of their web server from my FM Server machine, I get nothing; if ports 16000-16020 are open to my machine as they claim, should I not be able to scan that range and see them from the FM Server? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Bob Patin >>>> Longterm Solutions >>>> bob@longtermsolutions.com >>>> 615-333-6858 >>>> FileMaker 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 Certified Developer >>>> http://www.longtermsolutions.com >>>> - >>>> iChat: bobpatin@me.com >>>> Twitter: bobpatin >>>> ? >>>> FileMaker Consulting >>>> FileMaker Hosting for all versions of FileMaker >>>> PHP ? Full email services ? Free DNS hosting ? Colocation ? Consulting >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> FX.php_List mailing list >>>> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >>>> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FX.php_List mailing list >>> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >>> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FX.php_List mailing list >> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.iviking.org/pipermail/fx.php_list/attachments/20160217/5cf82e71/attachment.html From jonathan at exit445.com Wed Feb 17 11:31:34 2016 From: jonathan at exit445.com (Jonathan Schwartz) Date: Wed Feb 17 11:31:36 2016 Subject: [FX.php List] Ports In-Reply-To: <7BEB0470-DF82-48E9-8CC5-51FA6477E216@patin.com> References: <59429893-9C7A-41B1-9000-69D98295173D@patin.com> <14BEBAEE-32DC-495A-B638-EFCB668F2EAC@exit445.com> <255F4B78-6C4F-491E-9261-62FC8C08152F@patin.com> <6247DB69-413F-4F3E-AF81-3DD30CAFF6D9@exit445.com> <7BEB0470-DF82-48E9-8CC5-51FA6477E216@patin.com> Message-ID: <56AE4AC0-4358-4CB9-98DA-54BCD7874781@exit445.com> Bob, Let?s be super clear about what test you are reporting. As a base test, I suggested you direct a port scan at my server (FMS12 with WPE) to confirm you are getting the desired port results. You should be seeing the desired 16000 range ports I just repeated the scan using another tool: 16000/tcp open fmsas 16001/tcp open fmsascon 16012/tcp open unknown 16016/tcp open unknown 16020/tcp open unknown 16021/tcp open unknown If you are not seeing the same results using my server as a base test, then you have other issues to deal with before looking at the client server. Just trying to help. Jonathan Schwartz jonathan@exit445.com > On Feb 17, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Bob Patin wrote: > > I get some of it; I get 80, 16000, 50003, but I don?t get the other ports in the 16000 range that FM says we need to have open; what I?m trying to have opened are > > 16000 thru 16018 > 50003 > 50008 > > Not totally sure about the last 2 being necessary for web apps though? > > B > > Bob Patin > Longterm Solutions > bob@longtermsolutions.com > 615-333-6858 > FileMaker 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 Certified Developer > http://www.longtermsolutions.com > - > iChat: bobpatin@me.com > Twitter: bobpatin > ? > FileMaker Consulting > FileMaker Hosting for all versions of FileMaker > PHP ? Full email services ? Free DNS hosting ? Colocation ? Consulting > >> On Feb 17, 2016, at 12:14 PM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote: >> >> Understand that you aren't getting desired result between your FMP server and client web server. >> >> But are you getting the desired results using my server, as a base test? >> >> FYI, I usually have to ask more than once to get ports opened when working with this party web servers. >> >> Hope that helps, >> >> J >> >> >> Jonathan Schwartz >> jonathan@exit445.com >> >> >> >>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 10:09 AM, Bob Patin wrote: >>> >>> I tried that from the FM Server, but it didn?t get anything; I found a nice little PHP function that scans ports, and it?s reporting that none of the needed ports (16000-16020 and others) are open to my machine? >>> >>> Sigh? >>> >>> Bob Patin >>> Longterm Solutions >>> bob@longtermsolutions.com >>> 615-333-6858 >>> FileMaker 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 Certified Developer >>> http://www.longtermsolutions.com >>> - >>> iChat: bobpatin@me.com >>> Twitter: bobpatin >>> ? >>> FileMaker Consulting >>> FileMaker Hosting for all versions of FileMaker >>> PHP ? Full email services ? Free DNS hosting ? Colocation ? Consulting >>> >>>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 11:54 AM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote: >>>> >>>> I would hope so. >>>> >>>> Using Network Utility on OS X , here?s what I get polling my server. Feel free to duplicate. >>>> >>>> >>>> Port Scan has started? >>>> >>>> Port Scanning host: 66.116.97.237 >>>> >>>> Open TCP Port: 16000 >>>> Open TCP Port: 16001 >>>> Open TCP Port: 16012 >>>> Open TCP Port: 16016 >>>> Open TCP Port: 16020 >>>> Open TCP Port: 16021 >>>> Port Scan has completed? >>>> >>>> >>>> Jonathan Schwartz >>>> jonathan@exit445.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 9:44 AM, Bob Patin wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I suspect that my client?s IT guys don?t have the right ports open between the web server and the database server; i manage the database server, but their web server is elsewhere. >>>>> >>>>> When I do a port scan of their web server from my FM Server machine, I get nothing; if ports 16000-16020 are open to my machine as they claim, should I not be able to scan that range and see them from the FM Server? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Bob Patin >>>>> Longterm Solutions >>>>> bob@longtermsolutions.com >>>>> 615-333-6858 >>>>> FileMaker 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 Certified Developer >>>>> http://www.longtermsolutions.com >>>>> - >>>>> iChat: bobpatin@me.com >>>>> Twitter: bobpatin >>>>> ? >>>>> FileMaker Consulting >>>>> FileMaker Hosting for all versions of FileMaker >>>>> PHP ? Full email services ? Free DNS hosting ? Colocation ? Consulting >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> FX.php_List mailing list >>>>> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >>>>> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> FX.php_List mailing list >>>> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >>>> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FX.php_List mailing list >>> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >>> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FX.php_List mailing list >> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list From bob at patin.com Wed Feb 17 11:54:16 2016 From: bob at patin.com (Bob Patin) Date: Wed Feb 17 11:54:20 2016 Subject: [FX.php List] Ports In-Reply-To: <56AE4AC0-4358-4CB9-98DA-54BCD7874781@exit445.com> References: <59429893-9C7A-41B1-9000-69D98295173D@patin.com> <14BEBAEE-32DC-495A-B638-EFCB668F2EAC@exit445.com> <255F4B78-6C4F-491E-9261-62FC8C08152F@patin.com> <6247DB69-413F-4F3E-AF81-3DD30CAFF6D9@exit445.com> <7BEB0470-DF82-48E9-8CC5-51FA6477E216@patin.com> <56AE4AC0-4358-4CB9-98DA-54BCD7874781@exit445.com> Message-ID: Yes, i do see that with Network Utility, but I see nothing coming off the web server I?m dealing with, which leads me to believe that they didn?t open the ports properly for my FM Server, from which I?m testing. Bob Patin Longterm Solutions bob@longtermsolutions.com 615-333-6858 FileMaker 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 Certified Developer http://www.longtermsolutions.com - iChat: bobpatin@me.com Twitter: bobpatin ? FileMaker Consulting FileMaker Hosting for all versions of FileMaker PHP ? Full email services ? Free DNS hosting ? Colocation ? Consulting > On Feb 17, 2016, at 12:31 PM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote: > > Bob, > > Let?s be super clear about what test you are reporting. > > As a base test, I suggested you direct a port scan at my server (FMS12 with WPE) to confirm you are getting the desired port results. You should be seeing the desired 16000 range ports I just repeated the scan using another tool: > > 16000/tcp open fmsas > 16001/tcp open fmsascon > 16012/tcp open unknown > 16016/tcp open unknown > 16020/tcp open unknown > 16021/tcp open unknown > > If you are not seeing the same results using my server as a base test, then you have other issues to deal with before looking at the client server. > > Just trying to help. > > > Jonathan Schwartz > jonathan@exit445.com > > > >> On Feb 17, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Bob Patin wrote: >> >> I get some of it; I get 80, 16000, 50003, but I don?t get the other ports in the 16000 range that FM says we need to have open; what I?m trying to have opened are >> >> 16000 thru 16018 >> 50003 >> 50008 >> >> Not totally sure about the last 2 being necessary for web apps though? >> >> B >> >> Bob Patin >> Longterm Solutions >> bob@longtermsolutions.com >> 615-333-6858 >> FileMaker 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 Certified Developer >> http://www.longtermsolutions.com >> - >> iChat: bobpatin@me.com >> Twitter: bobpatin >> ? >> FileMaker Consulting >> FileMaker Hosting for all versions of FileMaker >> PHP ? 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Consulting >> >>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 12:14 PM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote: >>> >>> Understand that you aren't getting desired result between your FMP server and client web server. >>> >>> But are you getting the desired results using my server, as a base test? >>> >>> FYI, I usually have to ask more than once to get ports opened when working with this party web servers. >>> >>> Hope that helps, >>> >>> J >>> >>> >>> Jonathan Schwartz >>> jonathan@exit445.com >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 10:09 AM, Bob Patin wrote: >>>> >>>> I tried that from the FM Server, but it didn?t get anything; I found a nice little PHP function that scans ports, and it?s reporting that none of the needed ports (16000-16020 and others) are open to my machine? >>>> >>>> Sigh? >>>> >>>> Bob Patin >>>> Longterm Solutions >>>> bob@longtermsolutions.com >>>> 615-333-6858 >>>> FileMaker 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 Certified Developer >>>> http://www.longtermsolutions.com >>>> - >>>> iChat: bobpatin@me.com >>>> Twitter: bobpatin >>>> ? >>>> FileMaker Consulting >>>> FileMaker Hosting for all versions of FileMaker >>>> PHP ? Full email services ? Free DNS hosting ? Colocation ? Consulting >>>> >>>>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 11:54 AM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I would hope so. >>>>> >>>>> Using Network Utility on OS X , here?s what I get polling my server. Feel free to duplicate. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Port Scan has started? >>>>> >>>>> Port Scanning host: 66.116.97.237 >>>>> >>>>> Open TCP Port: 16000 >>>>> Open TCP Port: 16001 >>>>> Open TCP Port: 16012 >>>>> Open TCP Port: 16016 >>>>> Open TCP Port: 16020 >>>>> Open TCP Port: 16021 >>>>> Port Scan has completed? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Jonathan Schwartz >>>>> jonathan@exit445.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 9:44 AM, Bob Patin wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I suspect that my client?s IT guys don?t have the right ports open between the web server and the database server; i manage the database server, but their web server is elsewhere. >>>>>> >>>>>> When I do a port scan of their web server from my FM Server machine, I get nothing; if ports 16000-16020 are open to my machine as they claim, should I not be able to scan that range and see them from the FM Server? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Bob Patin >>>>>> Longterm Solutions >>>>>> bob@longtermsolutions.com >>>>>> 615-333-6858 >>>>>> FileMaker 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 Certified Developer >>>>>> http://www.longtermsolutions.com >>>>>> - >>>>>> iChat: bobpatin@me.com >>>>>> Twitter: bobpatin >>>>>> ? >>>>>> FileMaker Consulting >>>>>> FileMaker Hosting for all versions of FileMaker >>>>>> PHP ? 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Consulting >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> FX.php_List mailing list >>>>>> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >>>>>> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> FX.php_List mailing list >>>>> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >>>>> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> FX.php_List mailing list >>>> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >>>> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FX.php_List mailing list >>> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >>> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FX.php_List mailing list >> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.iviking.org/pipermail/fx.php_list/attachments/20160217/c56f5a63/attachment-0001.html From jonathan at exit445.com Wed Feb 17 12:01:04 2016 From: jonathan at exit445.com (Jonathan Schwartz) Date: Wed Feb 17 12:01:09 2016 Subject: [FX.php List] Ports In-Reply-To: References: <59429893-9C7A-41B1-9000-69D98295173D@patin.com> <14BEBAEE-32DC-495A-B638-EFCB668F2EAC@exit445.com> <255F4B78-6C4F-491E-9261-62FC8C08152F@patin.com> <6247DB69-413F-4F3E-AF81-3DD30CAFF6D9@exit445.com> <7BEB0470-DF82-48E9-8CC5-51FA6477E216@patin.com> <56AE4AC0-4358-4CB9-98DA-54BCD7874781@exit445.com> Message-ID: <7BA5C3A6-3A43-4979-AA3D-9EFBAC4078BC@exit445.com> Yup. That would be the most likely conclusion. Thanks for clarifying. Ask ?em again! Good luck. J Jonathan Schwartz jonathan@exit445.com > On Feb 17, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Bob Patin wrote: > > Yes, i do see that with Network Utility, but I see nothing coming off the web server I?m dealing with, which leads me to believe that they didn?t open the ports properly for my FM Server, from which I?m testing. > > Bob Patin > Longterm Solutions > bob@longtermsolutions.com > 615-333-6858 > FileMaker 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 Certified Developer > http://www.longtermsolutions.com > - > iChat: bobpatin@me.com > Twitter: bobpatin > ? > FileMaker Consulting > FileMaker Hosting for all versions of FileMaker > PHP ? Full email services ? Free DNS hosting ? Colocation ? Consulting > >> On Feb 17, 2016, at 12:31 PM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote: >> >> Bob, >> >> Let?s be super clear about what test you are reporting. >> >> As a base test, I suggested you direct a port scan at my server (FMS12 with WPE) to confirm you are getting the desired port results. You should be seeing the desired 16000 range ports I just repeated the scan using another tool: >> >> 16000/tcp open fmsas >> 16001/tcp open fmsascon >> 16012/tcp open unknown >> 16016/tcp open unknown >> 16020/tcp open unknown >> 16021/tcp open unknown >> >> If you are not seeing the same results using my server as a base test, then you have other issues to deal with before looking at the client server. >> >> Just trying to help. >> >> >> Jonathan Schwartz >> jonathan@exit445.com >> >> >> >>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Bob Patin wrote: >>> >>> I get some of it; I get 80, 16000, 50003, but I don?t get the other ports in the 16000 range that FM says we need to have open; what I?m trying to have opened are >>> >>> 16000 thru 16018 >>> 50003 >>> 50008 >>> >>> Not totally sure about the last 2 being necessary for web apps though? >>> >>> B >>> >>> Bob Patin >>> Longterm Solutions >>> bob@longtermsolutions.com >>> 615-333-6858 >>> FileMaker 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 Certified Developer >>> http://www.longtermsolutions.com >>> - >>> iChat: bobpatin@me.com >>> Twitter: bobpatin >>> ? >>> FileMaker Consulting >>> FileMaker Hosting for all versions of FileMaker >>> PHP ? 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Consulting >>> >>>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 12:14 PM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote: >>>> >>>> Understand that you aren't getting desired result between your FMP server and client web server. >>>> >>>> But are you getting the desired results using my server, as a base test? >>>> >>>> FYI, I usually have to ask more than once to get ports opened when working with this party web servers. >>>> >>>> Hope that helps, >>>> >>>> J >>>> >>>> >>>> Jonathan Schwartz >>>> jonathan@exit445.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 10:09 AM, Bob Patin wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I tried that from the FM Server, but it didn?t get anything; I found a nice little PHP function that scans ports, and it?s reporting that none of the needed ports (16000-16020 and others) are open to my machine? >>>>> >>>>> Sigh? >>>>> >>>>> Bob Patin >>>>> Longterm Solutions >>>>> bob@longtermsolutions.com >>>>> 615-333-6858 >>>>> FileMaker 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 Certified Developer >>>>> http://www.longtermsolutions.com >>>>> - >>>>> iChat: bobpatin@me.com >>>>> Twitter: bobpatin >>>>> ? >>>>> FileMaker Consulting >>>>> FileMaker Hosting for all versions of FileMaker >>>>> PHP ? Full email services ? Free DNS hosting ? Colocation ? Consulting >>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 11:54 AM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I would hope so. >>>>>> >>>>>> Using Network Utility on OS X , here?s what I get polling my server. Feel free to duplicate. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Port Scan has started? >>>>>> >>>>>> Port Scanning host: 66.116.97.237 >>>>>> >>>>>> Open TCP Port: 16000 >>>>>> Open TCP Port: 16001 >>>>>> Open TCP Port: 16012 >>>>>> Open TCP Port: 16016 >>>>>> Open TCP Port: 16020 >>>>>> Open TCP Port: 16021 >>>>>> Port Scan has completed? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Jonathan Schwartz >>>>>> jonathan@exit445.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 9:44 AM, Bob Patin wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I suspect that my client?s IT guys don?t have the right ports open between the web server and the database server; i manage the database server, but their web server is elsewhere. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When I do a port scan of their web server from my FM Server machine, I get nothing; if ports 16000-16020 are open to my machine as they claim, should I not be able to scan that range and see them from the FM Server? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bob Patin >>>>>>> Longterm Solutions >>>>>>> bob@longtermsolutions.com >>>>>>> 615-333-6858 >>>>>>> FileMaker 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 Certified Developer >>>>>>> http://www.longtermsolutions.com >>>>>>> - >>>>>>> iChat: bobpatin@me.com >>>>>>> Twitter: bobpatin >>>>>>> ? >>>>>>> FileMaker Consulting >>>>>>> FileMaker Hosting for all versions of FileMaker >>>>>>> PHP ? 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