[FX.php List] PHP error log tracking using PID?

[Steven Thoms]

Dale, Jonathan, Everyone,

I'm so sorry. I should not have broadened the issue. My point was that  
often we as FileMaker developer's need to be patient with IT people.  
Likely they do not see the advantages a FileMaker application gives a  
client off the the web and can be frustrated by expectations. When we  
approach them and say we are building a web module for a database  
application and use these tools (FMP/PHP), the obvious objection is,  
why not go with standard web based application tools like MySQL, etc.  
There are obvious answers to these questions. We need to be  
understanding of their expectations and be prepared to help them  
configure servers and logs to accommodate an unusual request. My hope  
was to have Jonathan air some of the objections and obstacles he  
encountered here on the forum, so future developers could be better  
prepared to work with IT departments. In my experience, it can work.  
But danders rise and words like heresy are used and the endeavor  
becomes fraught.

I apologize and thank Steve Winter for doing what should be done on a  
list; answer a question simply and concisely in hopes of building up a  
body of useful information.

My crack about Windows servers was uncalled for and unproductive.

Until next time,

Steve
207 798-0171

On Feb 12, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Dale Bengston wrote:

> Steve and Jonathan,
>
> I know this borders on heresy for a FileMaker-focused list, but here  
> goes. Perhaps the IT people are right: for a purely web-based  
> installation, often FileMaker really isn't the best choice.
>
> My two cents,
>
> Dale
>
>
> On Feb 12, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Steven Thoms wrote:
>
>> Jonathan,
>>
>> Chances are FileMaker does do the things MySQL does, just in a  
>> different and unfamiliar way. I have found that a lot of IT people,  
>> especially Windows IT people, tend to get a bit pushy and testy  
>> when faced with new situations. You must be patient with them; the  
>> windows admins especially, have spent a career dealing with  
>> inflexible, stubborn and, frankly, poorly developed server  
>> software. Maybe you can share the 'bad news' you gave them and we  
>> can help point you all in a direction that helps accomplish the  
>> needs of the system. So what exactly was the 'bad news'? From your  
>> intial post it sounds like php is new to this team as well, is that  
>> the case?
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> On Feb 12, 2012, at 11:21 AM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote:
>>
>>> This is their first exposure to FMS, and they have a
>>> MySQL  mindset. I've already had to deliver the bad news on  
>>> several other requests where FMS just doesn't do the things that  
>>> MySQL does.
>>
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