[FX.php List] Server is busy...please try again

Dale Bengston dbengston at tds.net
Tue Nov 9 08:32:09 MST 2010

This is exactly how I handle it.

On Nov 9, 2010, at 5:56 AM, Gjermund Gusland Thorsen wrote:

> My suggestions have mainly been about avoiding having to put the
> message "busy" on display, but if you really want it, please use ajax,
> the simplest way to do it is to make a loading display, so that it
> says "Loading ..." while it loads, and if it times out... make it turn
> into an error.
> ggt
> 2010/11/9 Gjermund Gusland Thorsen <ggt667 at gmail.com>:
>> FYI
>> I have added FX.php on facebook:
>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/FXphp-Filemaker-Xml-parser/130583853636446
>> The latest version of FX.php in the trunk of the SVN at
>> http://sf.net/projects/fxphp/ has FMFOpenQuery and SetCustomPrimaryKey
>> ggt
>> 2010/11/9 Gjermund Gusland Thorsen <ggt667 at gmail.com>:
>>> This is one of the reasons that I have added prepublishing to FX.php
>>> to let developers pre-publish XML and still use FX.php
>>> Example
>>> ---
>>> <?php
>>> $q = new FX( '../xml/news.xml', '', $dataSourceType );
>>> $q->FMFOpenQuery();
>>> $q->SetCustomPrimaryKey( 'pid' );
>>> $r = $q->FMFind( true, 'object', false );
>>> print_r( $r );
>>> ?>
>>> ---
>>> This way news, and some other often-looked-at, seldom-updated, data
>>> can be prepublished, notice ../xml/ it’s not published in the web
>>> area, but next to it.
>>> ggt
>>> 2010/11/9 Jonathan Schwartz <jschwartz at exit445.com>:
>>>> Thanks for the reply.
>>>> Let me be a little more clear...I WANT the message to display, both alerting
>>>> the customer that there was a problem, and giving them the option to try
>>>> again or come back later. Either of these is better than a browser timeout.
>>>> Jonathan
>>>> At 11:47 AM +1100 11/9/10, Tim 'Webko' Booth wrote:
>>>>> Dear Jonathan;
>>>>>> Hi folks.
>>>>>> "Server is busy...please try again".
>>>>>> You might see this message on a sophisticated airlines reservation web
>>>>>> site, but not if a Filemaker web server is too busy or has a problem. The
>>>>>> browser just times out.  This can be a real problem if a multi-step
>>>>>> operation fails to finish before the time out.
>>>>>> I need to install a fix for this eventuality for one client. My plan is
>>>>>> to set a flag in an existing customer record before starting the operation
>>>>>> and then resetting the flag upon completion. Any flags that remain set
>>>>>> indicate a potential problem. This is possible when you are editing an
>>>>>> existing record.  I am going to do that straight away.
>>>>>> NOTE: We have learned (the hard way) that the answer is *not* to increase
>>>>>> the browser expiration time. When there is a web server problem, the last
>>>>>> thing you want to do is stack up queries that don't expire.  This *will*
>>>>>> crash the web server if it hasn't already done so.
>>>>>> But back to the "Server is busy...please try again" option....
>>>>>> Would this involve having one server talking to a second server where the
>>>>>> first server can return the friendly message before the browser times out?
>>>>>>  Or, is this a job for javascript?  Has anyone done this before? I'm sure
>>>>>> that it is commonplace in many industries, but is not in my bag of tricks
>>>>>> yet.
>>>>> The problem is that XML engine is single-threaded, as far as I know.
>>>>> On a multi-connection database (like mySQL) you can check how many
>>>>> connections, and then redirect to a Busy page if it's over a certain number
>>>>> [1]...
>>>>> When there is only one connection, then a long request will clog it for
>>>>> all the requests after as well.
>>>>> I can't think of a way to test easily without being part of the issue, as
>>>>> it would then be another request, stuck behind the long-running one... Happy
>>>>> to see if anyone else has an idea about accomplishing this.
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Webko
>>>>> [1] the main reason our heaviest use systems are hybrid FM/mySQL, so we
>>>>> can do something with excess requests - and mySQL can handle a *lot* more
>>>>> requests in a given time period.
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>>>> Jonathan Schwartz
>>>> Exit 445 Group
>>>> jonathan at exit445.com
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